Reddit ice climbing They don't mimic the motion of ice climbing, but you don't need to train your swing anyway. Amga instructor could back this claim up. Many of the climbs around (eg, Kautz on Rainier, N. I do also know people who climb in ski pants with reinforced kick panels, or something like the OR Cirque pants which have added panels on the insides of the ankles for more resistance to crampons. , thin Hiking impressions: • Walked a quarter mile from my car, with the boa completely disengaged and while getting some foot movement in the boot, it was comfy walking • Sole was solid and grippy on mixed surface (packed snow and ice on rock) Climbing experience: • Easily crank down boa right before tying in • Easily Undo boa through my As a former ice skater I can say it would hurt to fall on ice. I’ve been using my friends dry rope this season and loved it. etc. I have the Mammut Alpine Dry 8mms and can't recommend them enough for ice and alpine rock climbing. (obvious) When belaying, stand where no ice chunks are on the ground, if nothings there, its more likely that nothing will fall there. Temres 02 winter, they made a winter sport specific version that i found acceptable whilst climbing down to -16c in hokkaido, switching to mitts at belay. Would be cumbersome. 225' 2 pitch with maybe 3 solid screw placements throughout due to mostly chandelier ice. I'm now using a Movement 3Tech Alpi for my climbing and bike commuting. Haven't used it on the slopes yet but my guess is that it will do the job. What I take away from MP: some of us were born to climb. According to my Apple Watch it was a total of 8ish miles and 900ft in elevation gain once on the glacier. Ice climbing isn't "hard", at least not in the same sense that rock climbing is hard. Here are some general rules of thumb: Aspect - North is best, then east, then west, south is worst. The main problem I have been facing is I rather go with a guide or someone that can give me some starter tips on safety and technique, but all the guided tours online seem to cost a minimum of $400 for the day. Ice climbing exposes boots to harsh conditions - relying on a crank/dial to stiffen a boot seems nuts to me. I found that I can drop my systems board to about 62 degrees and still pull figure 4's from slopers with the huge added benefit of knowing you won't STAY AWAY FALLING ICE - and learn the other dangers that are specific to ice: ice quality, how ice fractures, forces inside a column of ice, avalanches, staying warm, dangers of climber falls, snow bridges, etc. I can get a full rack of screws, draws, anchor materials, personal climbing gear, water bottle, food, gloves, parka, extra clothing, rope, tools, crampons and a helmet all on my mission 35 without issue. Top roped my first time ice climbing WI3. We did the Superjeep/Ice Cave/Glacier Walk combo. If you’re alpine climbing extra weight is annoying. Twynam, with a group of 6. Ridge Baker, etc) are a couple pitches of ice over the course of a lot of glacier travel and snow. Sure, when you climb vertical ice, there’s no direct connection with the medium, gymnastic problem-solving, or reliable protection, but both ice and rock involve going up and include the word “climbing. It takes time to "create" a hold using the ice axe, or you use very tiny holds with the tip of the axe. Ordered a pair of the heavy 282s (and the lighter, but potentially interesting for climbing, Showa 406) to try out in Ouray - worth a shot, and buying two pairs of these is still less than buying any climbing-branded stuff on 50% sale. Price is much less than HMG and related dyneema packs. In eastern europe 50m is often enough, but 60 is a safe bet. I rarely wear any waterproof layer these days because other, water-resistant jackets will keep you more comfortable and tend to be cheaper and perhaps even more durable. Obviously a bit heavier than a pure climbing helmet, but offers pretty solid protection. Some models can 116 votes, 17 comments. And with ice climbing, you are generally walking in snow for the approach, so stiff boots don't really matter. The structural stability comes from the ice at the top of the falls, not from the ice adhering to rock behind the falls. Def recommend double 70s -- for super long pitches and raps in the alpine. For alpine climbing, all my screws are aluminum. However if a low angle ice climb, say below about 50 degrees, develops a snow cover the snow can act as an insulati I did a combined glacier hike and ice climbing at Solheimajökull called Blue Ice with Arctic Adventures with 3 other friends and it was a lot of fun! It was an 8 or 10 person group (can't remember) and we had some practice ice climbing before being dropped into a crevice and climbing out. For example, on a recent climb, I used 3 screws to get over a small-ish vertical step (maybe 30' of climbing), and then belayed over the top off 2 pickets. For something more durable than the Nano Airs, cheapo Sporthill XC ski pants. If the protection and belaying is sound, the fall will be ok. Apr 20, 2025 · Non-climbing related posts go in the Politics forum! Last Post: 1 hour ago 1 hour ago Eric Craig Trip Reports. I would worry about the device that changes the stiffness breaking or jamming. ) A climbing buddy has one and it's super light and still self-arrests fine, can be used as an anchor and you can even use it almost as an ice tool for short stretches. In this photo, they have an anchor set up above the climb (this is called top-roping) so there is very little risk of a ground fall as long as the belayer is doing their job. Live in Denver and will be doing plenty of ice climbing this winter in CO and a number of days up in Hyalite. This is extremely cool, but for the life of me I cannot find any media (photos, videos, etc) of these events. e. 1: For all ppl Quest : A cold Burial for Climibing gear You need to go Here: And Make the event on the underground the event start when you kill the mini boss on the jails and you gain the chance for a drop climbing gear After complete the event you can do this every 2 Hrs In typical ice climbing, you have 2 screws at each belay, but that isn't always the case on a glacier. Ice anchors are less likely to take a fall, falling while ice climbing is bad news Ice anchors are built in more hazardous environments where speed is safety. There's good placements, bad placements, good ice, bad ice, good rock, bad rock. If you’re ice cragging plastic is fine. Ice climbing in the PNW pretty much = alpine ice with a few exceptions, so there's a whole skillset like glacier travel, steep snow climbing, etc needed just to get to the technical ice portion. Reply reply More replies SirAidandRinglocks Obviously there is a lot of seasonal and local variation, but I don't think Ouray Ice Park even opens until mid to late December typically. Wear a good, sweat-wicking base layer top and bottom, warm socks, and bring a thick puffy, water-proof layers top and bottom, a couple mid-layer options, and ideally two pairs of gloves - one slightly thinner and more For purely climbing ice why make it hard for yourself when you will have so much going on managing a new climbing environment. They should also be thin enough to use ice tools with while climbing. 3M subscribers in the climbing community. Ice climbing is riskier than most other types of climbing if you are lead climbing (leading means climbing from the ground up, placing protection as you go). Ice climbing in Canada Hi everyone, I'm planning for a trip to Canada, probably Canmore for Dec, Jan, Feb of 24-25 winter and was wondering if anyone here has info on logistics in Canada as I've never been. 10B pitches-Trad:To clarify, I didn't like climbing at my limit. For ice climbing, Patagonia Nano Air pants with a Patagonia Houdini windbreaker or hard shell if desired on top. We met Paulina at their HQ and had about a 15 minutes transfer via private super jeep to the glacier. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If anyone has suggestions to look into it would be amazing! Edit: format I want to use them both on ice and mixed climbing in lower grades and also as single ice axe for skitouring, i prefer something lighter even at the cost of durability, since i wont be using them that many times in a sesons, alason something less curved and technical than nomics. 2 70m dry rope as an alpine/sending rope for this summer. According to Matt Holland, co-owner of the Northwest Fitness Project, “ice climbing involves a lot of grip strength, core stability, and overall endurance. I have been rock climbing for 8 years, and I would like to begin learning the next discipline of climbing new to me - ice. And about your comment about ice top rope anchors: off trees and rocks, TR anchors are the same as rock. There will be a TON of ice falling, and when you're belaying, you don't wanna get hit by that. Recent snow - As long as the weather has stayed pretty cold, a steep ice climb shouldn't be too affected by recent snow*. To the extent Southwest CO has ice in at that time (e. I’ll be going to Iceland in mid March and I’m between 2 glacier hikes and ice caves. Hey guys, new to ice climbing, I avidly refresh this subreddit at least five times a day and have devoured through the back-pages of threads. is/) Gaiters are a good option if you're finding that you have trouble not tearing up pants with crampons. lol Dec 5, 2022 · That’s enough to feel obligated to like ice climbing. g. One departs from Skaftafell and is a private 6 hour tour with glacier hiking, ice caves , and ice climbing. My question is, is 9. Climbing ice columns like that always has a chance of shearing off. -3 Days steep skiing/climbing practice with guide-3 Days guided climbing in Nepal to 21,000ft-Read through Freedom of the Hills, Staying alive in Avalanche Terrian, and a handful of other books Climbing :-The longest sport climb I've done 10 pitches with a couple 5. Nov 3, 2017 · To each his own. It looks like Ice Climbing (Difficulty) was an event from at least 1997-1999, and has some legendary names on the podium. It's mostly grip strength you're after which you can train much more effectively with the rubber loops. In that sense, on the whole, its like rock climbing. com Nov 27, 2023 · The ultralight hiking movement meets ice climbing with this visionary idea: Skip the $300 mountain boots and just use your feet, as the above Reddit user illustrates. I am getting 9. However, in ice climbing, falling on lead can mean broken ankles, knees, or worse. It looks like Ice Climbing (Difficulty) was an event from at least 1997-1999, and has some legendary names on the podium. 1. They claim the material is very durable, holding up great so far (mostly rock climbing so far) but I haven't had it long enough to say definitively. That said , there is usualy degradation in ropes, especially with how well the watherproofing works, so usualy the ropes have a lifecycle starting with ice climbing, then alpine climbing, then trad climbing, then as slings (used for ice, or saxonian climbing). 5 hours (including travel time). Ice climbing can go back and forth between warm climbing in the sun to freezing your butt off standing in the shade waiting. I'm looking for B2/B3 boots for alpine terrains (snow, ice, low-technicity climbing). The outdoor rec centers at most of the colleges in MN and WI offer ice and mixed climbing trips throughout the winter, and I would be surprised if Cornell were any different since the NE is a mecca for ice and mixed climbing. Heading out to Blue Lake in Kosciuszko National Park, Australia's ice climbing crag 1. You aren’t too likely to fall down the mountain (depending on which one you do). ” What are you going to do, climb in the gym all winter? As the pundits on Ice climbing is very different from sport climbing. There is some overlap between technical axes (like the north machine or quark for example) and ice climbing, but if you'll still end up with something not good most of the time, having the right tool for the job makes a huge difference. I have been wanting to get into ice climbing for a while, and thought my upcoming trip to Colorado would be a good place to start. Related Ice climbing Outdoors Outdoors and Nature forward back r/Adirondacks The Adirondack Park is the largest publicly protected area throughout the entire United States. I'm guessing they're just showing pictures of a climbing group for the hike picture - we did not use the ropes and harnesses at any part of the hike, only for the climb. Edelrid Sendero was as well, but the smallest size doesn't go small enough. The only thing it sucks at is chopping, but I personally have never really had to do that anyway (only climbed in the alps up to AD+). Light, carries well, just enough pockets for quick access to some essentials but nothing more. But when your axe is set, you can apply a lot of force on it, no matter the hold, because what you're physically grabbing is the axe And there have been routes in ridicules grades like WI11 and more. some of us were born and climb. , Eureka Canyon near Silverton), they will be in the backcountry and may require long approaches and more advanced ice climbing technique (e. This is false, plenty of guide books with official routes all over the finger lakes (all routes forming off shale). 7oz. A slight curve can also be ok, but generally speaking it's for more special use cases. We honestly only had a problem with the length of the hike while doing it and we’re sore for a few days after from stomping on ice with the crampons. 2nd time climbing ice 2 weeks later, Led WI4. . My current gloves don't do very well while belaying, the rope tends to just slide and I don't get a good grip on the rope. And a classic straight ice axe will always be better for glacier travel and self arrest. The top of the line ergo ice tools make climbing so much easier, you can take your time and have fun without fighting for every placement. The front spike is typically used by driving it into ice. Are there any good beginner spots in North Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia, or Kentucky? Thanks! 4 ice clipper slots The Petzl Luna was a strong contender until I realized that the new iteration doesn't have ice clipper slots anymore. Ultralight screws are nice if you’re really serious about climbing. The ice tool carry is great. When you ice climb, you're climbing a waterfall. Skaftafell is the long hike. However, it is high consequence for the leader, which is why experience is the most valuable thing, experience gained by spending a great deal of time out there with a more experienced partner. Your stories, epics, and adventures Ice Climbing Interesting idea! I use lighter weight Showa gloves all the time for work, and they are very well made. The climbing was extremely tiresome and after 6 trips down and climbing back out I was beat. Jan 14, 2019 · Learn More: Ice Climbing Techniques Training For Ice Climbing. The usual "ice climbing" jacket is a comfortable softshell you can layer under, or more recently, an action-oriented puffy jacket. The tour guide was great! (https://explorers. If you get into actual alpine ice climbing you're going to use ice tools not axes which are much shorter and are curved so that both ends are in constant contact with the ice and snow for better grip. Ice climbing is a sport that is a pay to play. My goals for the next two years are Mont Blanc, Monte Rosa and Dent du Géant (plus a handful of easy 4000 such as Breithorn, Bishorn, Gran Paradiso, etc. I've done both, I've skied off the summit of both, I am a WI5 ice leader. We're planning to walk in from Guthega and camp for three nights on Mt. Since you're a student, I'd definitely make use of your school's outdoor recreation and PE programs. (Insert response about learning to climb harder). Hi all! Hope you're doing alright. WI 6 is like WI 5 but longer sustained vertical ice with no rest, ice quality can be tricky (cauliflours), sometimes climbing can be quite 3 dimensional (ice pillars), possible short sections of overhanging ice. The combination meets the criteria of breathable and wind proof/water resistant (when desired) and sits around your price limit. When you're climbing, ice flakes will chip off at remarkable speeds, you don't wanna lose an eye. That is approximately 5% of the battle :-) Another vote for Adams. It's definitely more technical than ice climbing and probably always will be. Most ice pitches don't have a place to put a top rope, hence the lead climbing, which does have slack in the line. glaciers, ice climbing, etc). I am aware North Carolina might not be the best for ice, but I am willing to drive out of state. Its largely the same at a high level. Adding more holes may reduce strength rather than add redundancy. ” When he trains climbers, these are some of the exercises that he suggests athletes do at home to prepare for the ice season. unfamiliar with ice climbing, both of us have pretty great upper body strength, but i’m sure that’s only half the battle. Currently in Iceland and we just used Ice Explorers. Ankles, legs and such get caught and snapped that way. In both case this means holding tension while you do that, so almost everything in ice climbing is static. And yes we are scared of falling. See full list on outsideonline. Additional ice screws in a small area doesn't add true redundancy. 2 too thin to be top roping on ice? It seems like there is much less rope drag potential overall with ice climbing since anchors (atleast where I climb) are built on trees above the ice. Do the generic skiing/winter sports gloves do or are particular brands or models better suited for ice climbing. It's the ice that holds you, not the screw. In sport climbing you constantly push yourself to your physical limit, fall again and again, and finally send your project. My two pennies. Usually about 1/3 of my harness is aluminum. So light, smooth, easy to coil and work with, and cool looking. Source: A bachelors of science in Adventure Therapy. Got some mild frostbite this weekend and looking forward to a set of heated socks to keep from making it worse, especially over the next couple weeks while it heals. The home of Climbing on reddit. For a few of the guys it's training for the summer mountaineering season in the New Zealand Alps. Its CE 1077 (alpine skiing), EN 12492 (climbing), EN 1078 (cycling) certified and 12. That said, key differences are that when ice climbing there are a lot of sharp things involved. The other is by Ice guide and is a 6 hour glacier hike with ice cave tour from Vatnajökull. Crampons are the most "extreme" form of traction device, with large spikes on the bottom and front, usually are constructed of metal connected plates with serious binding connecting it to the shoe, and are used for very icy conditions (i. Short hike to the base of the ice, gear up, safety review, the we start looking for the first wall the scale. There are a lot of poor dirt bags getting after it and a lot of late 30s early 40s getting mileage but when I started getting a surplus of money to buy good equipment and spend more time climbing is when I saw the greatest improvements and enjoyment out of the sport Honestly, 50L is really big for most ice climbing adventures. The total time we spent on the tour was about 4. Check ur head game. The pickaxe looking thing you see is used like a walking stick, not for climbing. The ice climbing portion uses different tools and is much closer to vertical. However, in addition to the cost, aluminum screws also come with a performance decrement in moist ice. If you’re doing scratchy mixed…chimneying and groveling against the rock…then yeah, I could see a more durable clipper being useful. My arms were noodles the next day. iexuvfzhrvolcyacfnqlqyrywraobdtdnqtrlcvdmarqkdugsqdgzajkfjdjpcmzjwneolfxsozl